[barryk]

Living in Cheshire we had quite a bit of fog yesterday. I was amazed at the number of cars driving in the fog without any lights what so ever. Many were very dark colours and difficult to see and I'm afraid to say, driven by lady drivers (fact not sexist).

I assume RAC has a list of members both breakdown and insurance. Is it possible for them to put out alerts to encourage drivers to drive on headlights (and fog lights if you have them) in Fog.

I guess regular alerts wouldn't be a bad idea for other issues as well. If it can be doen I'm sure this forum could come up with sensible ideas for alerts??

[Ghost Rider]

http://www.rac.co.uk/web/knowhow/goi...411E78EB936409


RAC do give advice for foul weather driving, Alerts? regular e-mails? that would be spam in my book.

Also it's part of the driving test and highway code.


There are Matrix's or signs over motorways that remind people of seat belts and not driving while tired etc. Also there are Smaller signs on the way into cities and towns, these should be switched in such conditions to remind drivers of the need to use lights and NOT mobile phones.

[Sussex Patrol]

Been really foggy down here too and it amazes how many people don't use their fog lights yet on a clear night every idiot has their front fogs on(one of my pet hates:mad: )

Matt

[Marcusdarkus]

Originally Posted by Sussex Patrol

Been really foggy down here too and it amazes how many people don't use their fog lights yet on a clear night every idiot has their front fogs on(one of my pet hates:mad: )

Matt

Mine too

[emmerm1]

That must be the worst thing about the fog, getting stuck behind a car with the fog lights on for 10 miles down the carriage way when you can still see 500 metres in fromt of you. I just read the link and fog lights should be on if the visibility is less than 100 metres. Talk about making people see red!!!
(Pardon the pun)

[akr7001]

fog lamps

Originally Posted by barryk

Living in Cheshire we had quite a bit of fog yesterday. I was amazed at the number of cars driving in the fog without any lights what so ever. Many were very dark colours and difficult to see and I'm afraid to say, driven by lady drivers (fact not sexist).

I assume RAC has a list of members both breakdown and insurance. Is it possible for them to put out alerts to encourage drivers to drive on headlights (and fog lights if you have them) in Fog.

I guess regular alerts wouldn't be a bad idea for other issues as well. If it can be doen I'm sure this forum could come up with sensible ideas for alerts??

Fog lamps (front or rear) must oly be used if visibility is seriously reduced
(road vehicle lighting regulations)
this can be defined as less than100m
the only compulsion for lights (apart from lighting up times) is that headlamps must be used in conditions of reduced visibility
if you are in a line of traffic with vehicles in sight behind you why do you need rear fog lamps
front foglamps are only beneficial in verypoor conditions

[akr7001]

Fog Lamps

Fog lamps (front or rear) must oly be used if visibility is seriously reduced
(road vehicle lighting regulations)
this can be defined as less than100m
the only compulsion for lights (apart from lighting up times) is that headlamps must be used in conditions of reduced visibility
if you are in a line of traffic with vehicles in sight behind you why do you need rear fog lamps
front foglamps are only beneficial in verypoor conditions

[barryk]

See and be seen

There seems to be a large anti fog light brigade out there and I agree that fog lights are a damn nuisence, especially rear fogs, in clear weather and when following a vehicle for a period of time. After all once you have seen it you know it's there. HOWEVER, I live in rural Cheshire and drive on country roads. My posting was based on this observation. The more lights on in fog the better I say!

[Sussex Patrol]

I couldn't agree more thats the point I was making in the fog most people don't even turn their headlights on let alone the rear fogs.When there is no need for fog lights every tom dick and harry has either their front fogs on because they think it looks cool and then you sometimes get the driver who seems to be unaware their rear fog lights are on making harder to drive at night because they are blinding the traffic behind them.

Matt

[akr7001]

Originally Posted by barryk

There seems to be a large anti fog light brigade out there and I agree that fog lights are a damn nuisence, especially rear fogs, in clear weather and when following a vehicle for a period of time. After all once you have seen it you know it's there. HOWEVER, I live in rural Cheshire and drive on country roads. My posting was based on this observation. The more lights on in fog the better I say!

thats ok just comeup myway so I can issue a fixed penalty

[barryk]

Fixed Penalty

This is getting silly. Fixed penelty for driving in thick fog with fog lights on?? If you can issue tickets you must be a police patrol and you should be be booking those without lights on or have I missed your point!!

[akr7001]

Originally Posted by akr7001

Fog lamps (front or rear) must oly be used if visibility is seriously reduced
(road vehicle lighting regulations)
this can be defined as less than100m
the only compulsion for lights (apart from lighting up times) is that headlamps must be used in conditions of reduced visibility
if you are in a line of traffic with vehicles in sight behind you why do you need rear fog lamps
front foglamps are only beneficial in verypoor conditions

yes you have missed the point
read my first message

[barryk]

Merry Xmas

OK akr7001 I guess we do agree that fog lights are too often abused but still essential in bad, bad fog.

May I wish you and every other member of this forum a very Merry and Safe Xmas and New Year

[Watcher]

Gof

Fog lights are totally and utterly useless anyway, and fitting them as standard is the worst thing any manufacturer ever does!

[davey_g]

Originally Posted by akr7001

thats ok just comeup myway so I can issue a fixed penalty

Assuming that means you work for a constabulary...do you think you could encourage all your colleagues to do the same? (Could barely see last night when being followed by Volvo estate running with front fogs on when road was damp...loads of reflected light up off the road - she seemed to get upset when I slowed to about 25 because I couldn't see - kept flashing full beam!)

[Rolebama]

I have a pair of front fog lamps which I bought years ago. They are brilliant. The point is that they send out a very wide, compressed beam that lights up the road surface beneath the fog. These things the manufacturers fit are useless. They are more like driving lamps and totally unsuitable for use in fog as they just reflect the light back in the same way as normal headlamps. If they were adjusted they may be of some use, but some of them can't even be adjusted to bring their beams low enough.

[Snowball]

Originally Posted by barryk

This is getting silly. Fixed penelty for driving in thick fog with fog lights on?? If you can issue tickets you must be a police patrol and you should be be booking those without lights on or have I missed your point!!

Has that really happened; a penalty ticket for using fog lights in thick fog?
Last Friday I was driving through north Derbyshire, and it was very foggy. Yet some drivers had only their sidelights on. Now that is dangerous.

And if the visible distance must be down to 100 metres before using fog lights, that gives you about 10 seconds warning of something ahead when you are travelling at 30 mph. And many drivers do travel at 30 mph or more in thick fog. I do not have front fog lights, but I switch on my rear fog lights if I find those of the vehicle in front too dim due to the fog.