Is there any way admin can have a new section titled "Lodge your complaints here", and only allow complaints to be posted there?
Complaints section
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I keep seeing new posters complaining about the appalling RAC service on various sections of the forum.
Is there any way admin can have a new section titled "Lodge your complaints here", and only allow complaints to be posted there? -
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Good idea, it could contain all the contact information for complaints and perhaps some tips on what information they need to include with their complaint.
Lily could still keep an eye on it and assist where she can as she appears to have taken on that function.
I tried this an an AI thing and have shown the results below;
RegenerateDeleteIn this situation under UK civil law, the key issue is determining who is liable for the damage to the customer's car. Here's the analysis:
- Contractual Relationship:
The RAC has a contract with the customer to provide breakdown cover. When the RAC hires a third-party contractor to move the car, this creates a contractual relationship between the RAC and the contractor, but not directly with the customer. - Vicarious Liability:
The RAC, as the principal, may be vicariously liable for the actions of the contractor if the contractor was acting within the scope of their employment or authority when damaging the car. If the contractor was engaged in performing the RAC's contractual obligation (e.g., moving the car), the RAC could be held liable for the damage caused by the contractor. - Liability of the Contractor:
The contractor who caused the damage might also be directly liable for negligence or breach of duty. The customer can potentially pursue a claim directly against the contractor if their actions were negligent. - Practical Approach for the Customer:
- The customer should initially seek compensation from the RAC, as they are the party with whom the customer contracted.
- If the RAC refuses or is unable to compensate, the customer can then pursue a claim directly against the contractor responsible for the damage.
The customer should primarily seek compensation from the RAC under the principle of vicarious liability, as the contractor was acting on behalf of the RAC when damaging the car. If that fails, the customer can pursue the contractor directly for damages.
Would you like me to help craft a more detailed legal explanation or a sample letter for claiming compensation?
I point out that the customer ought to be compensated by the RAC as the primary contractor. The RAC can then recover from their contractor making it less onerous for the customer who has no contract with the third party?
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RegenerateDeleteYour reasoning is correct in principle. Here’s a detailed explanation:
Liability of the RAC to the Customer:
- The RAC has a contractual duty to the customer to provide breakdown services, including arranging for the recovery or movement of the vehicle.
- When the RAC hires a third-party contractor to move the vehicle, the contractual relationship is primarily between the RAC and the contractor, not directly with the customer.
- However, the RAC is still liable to the customer for the services it has contracted to provide. This liability arises because the RAC remains responsible for fulfilling its contractual obligations, including ensuring that the vehicle is moved safely.
- The contractor, acting on behalf of the RAC, owes a duty of care to the customer’s vehicle.
- If the contractor's negligence causes damage, the RAC can be vicariously liable—meaning the RAC can be held responsible for the contractor’s negligent acts, provided the contractor was acting within the scope of their employment or authority when the damage occurred.
- The RAC, after compensating the customer, may pursue the third-party contractor in a separate claim to recover its costs or damages.
- This process is known as subrogation, where the RAC steps into the shoes of the customer to recover damages from the negligent contractor.
- The customer’s claim is against the RAC because of the contractual relationship.
- The RAC, in turn, can recover its losses from the third-party contractor responsible for the damage.
- Therefore, the RAC is liable to the customer for the damage caused by the contractor, but the RAC has the right to seek reimbursement from the contractor for the amount paid to the customer.
Would you like me to help draft a legal explanation or guidance for pursuing such a claim?
The second explanation of the legal position looks to be the better one to me.Last edited by olduser; 22-02-26 at 20:00.
- Contractual Relationship:
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@olduser
Two criteria must both be met for the doctrine of vicarious liability to apply -
- the nature of the relationship between the two parties must either be one of employment, or one that is sufficiently similar or “akin” to employment that it justifies treating it the same way. The relationship criterion is not however met when the wrongdoer is truly an “independent contractor” and not subject to a sufficient degree of direction or control by the other person or organisation, and
- there must be a sufficiently close connection between that relationship and the wrongdoing.
https://www.clydeco.com/en/insights/...the-uk-supreme -
Hi all - thanks for the feedback - we are looking at ways to improve this for sure, this isn't really an appropriate channel for resolving complaints and we're looking to make some changes to our processes to make that clearer and less intrusive to the types of conversations that do take place here.
Thanks for your patience,
Nick -
This is a very specific ruling about Scottish Sheriffs who are in effect free agents and are expected to stay within the law.
What I was looking at was the voucher.
Because the RAC was looking for benefit (retention of customer or new customer) and there was a limited list of garages this is a version of a contract (I can't think of the name at the moment) with the customer (take this to named garage and you will get a reduction on your MOT).
The garage benefited from the work, they are linked with the RAC, and they get the MOT work, that forms a sort of contract between RAC and garage.
If the deal fails for the customer there is reasonable grounds for the RAC to have to pay the difference. But I do agree a poor lawyer could easily loose the case. -
Complaints tend to be the Cinderella of most business', and yet it is an opportunity, maybe the only opportunity, to see what the customer see's.
How the customer is dealt with will set their relationship with the company for life.
So the job is given to someone who can't actually do anything about each complaint but try and fob off the customer?