Dutch Roundabout.

  • olduser's Avatar
    Noticed this on BBC News;
    Being stopped leaving a roundabout feels like asking for trouble to me.

    There is a video on using the roundabout below the main article.
    Any thoughts anyone?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnr3l21nvo
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  • Beelzebub's Avatar
    If the illustration is accurate - which I doubt - then (1) there should be a give-way (broken) line at the entrance rather than the solid stop line shown, and (2) there should not be a second pair of Belisha beacons.

    Also, the Highway Code tells us that no-one ever has "right of way".

    Apart from that, it seems a good idea to separate peds and cyclists from motor vehicles. Whether the cyclists will obey is another question.
  • Rolebama's Avatar
    Hemel Hempstead was renowned for their infamous 'magic roundabout' back in the day. A collection of mini roundabouts around a main roundabout which you can navigate by going 'the wrong way' around it. Personally, like the one TC1474 mentions in another thread, I shall never use it. I don't know what the locals think of it, but if unhappy, they could show their displeasure at the next council elections.
  • olduser's Avatar
    If the illustration is accurate - which I doubt - then (1) there should be a give-way (broken) line at the entrance rather than the solid stop line shown, and (2) there should not be a second pair of Belisha beacons.

    Also, the Highway Code tells us that no-one ever has "right of way".

    Apart from that, it seems a good idea to separate peds and cyclists from motor vehicles. Whether the cyclists will obey is another question.

    I think over the years the Priority has changed so pedestrians are now top with cycles second.
    But that is as you say different to saying right of way. I am unable to think of a Highway code that is invalid on this new layout.

    The problem with it is it's different, therefore old habits will have to be changed .
  • Drivingforfun's Avatar
    I did the magic roundabout as a learner and in fairness it should work, because its not one roundabout you can go anti-clockwise around, it’s just several mini roundabouts that you take individually

    Extreme example I know but it’s in some ways no different to the M25 whereby you join it via separate junctions but can go round it in either direction

    I definitely agree it catches people out though
  • olduser's Avatar
    Unfortunately, the article mentions crashes but do's not give any details, as with most things in life, we only learn when things go wrong.

    Further to my comment above, re stopping on roundabout;

    There is nothing technically wrong with stopping on leaving a roundabout, or on a roundabout but it feels like asking for trouble.

    Usually, if stopped on a roundabout that whole quadrant is stopped, on this roundabout, it can be just one vehicle in a position to leave and it cannot, life, and driving being what it is, the chances are there will be a vehicle following too close or intending to go to the next exit, a crash will result.

    OK you would not be to blame but the insurers would tend to go for 50/50 'cause it's on a roundabout, and no matter whose at fault you still have a car that needs repair.