[Tom643]

I see in England and Wales the yellow box junction cameras are being rolled out to more areas under Moving Traffic Offences. I wondered if anyone knows about Scotland, and if the yellow box junction cameras are used for enforcement there or not?

[Beelzebub]

AFAIK the decriminalisation of parking has been rolled out to various councils in Scotland, but the extension of that to cover moving traffic offences has not. Yet.

However, all that means is that yellow box etc. offences are still criminal, and hence the responsibility of the police. I don't know of anything to stop them using cameras for enforcement.

[Tom643]

Thanks, that's really useful. Things do seem to differ a bit between England and Scotland

[Drivingforfun]

Sorry to take over a thread but when you say a yellow box offence is "criminal" does that mean it's not a traffic offence? Or is it criminal in the same sense of something like speeding?

I was always of the impression that most traffic offences, with the exception of certain serious ones, don't label someone as a criminal when asked i.e. for a job application or when traveling

I'm just curious, it doesn't affect me!

[TC1474]

Originally Posted by Drivingforfun

Sorry to take over a thread but when you say a yellow box offence is "criminal" does that mean it's not a traffic offence? Or is it criminal in the same sense of something like speeding?

I was always of the impression that most traffic offences, with the exception of certain serious ones, don't label someone as a criminal when asked i.e. for a job application or when traveling

I'm just curious, it doesn't affect me!

You are correct.

99% of traffic offences are non criminal.

To be a criminal offence, you will have been arrested, convicted by a court and given a criminal record number which stays with you for life. So, Causing death by dangerous driving or careless driving, Drink driving, driving whilst under the influence of drink or drugs, disqualified driving, they are criminal offences.

Speeding, non compliance or construction and use offences whilst can result in a disqualification which is not in itself a criminal offence unless you continue to drive as examples are simply marked on your driving licence history but are spent after usually 5 years and have no last effect unless you continue to offend.

Hope that makes sense?

[Drivingforfun]

That makes perfect sense @TC1474. Also answers another question I’d had in the past - what does a medically (or any,I suppose) disqualified person have to lose by continuing driving, if they’re already banned? It sounds like the answer is: quite a lot!

[TC1474]

Originally Posted by Drivingforfun

That makes perfect sense @TC1474. Also answers another question I’d had in the past - what does a medically (or any,I suppose) disqualified person have to lose by continuing driving, if they’re already banned? It sounds like the answer is: quite a lot!

Someone who continually drives and gets arrested will eventually find (usually when caught for the third time) that they end up serving a prison sentence.

I had one regular disqualified driver whose first sentence was 12 weeks in prison, then he got 9 months and then 18 months on top of which he also kept having his disqualification period extended.

The downside is that the extended disqualification tended to run concurrent rather than consecutively.

But you are right, the consequences can be severe and far reaching.