[josswallace]

I live in an unadopted road, which has its own problems, but the road is linked to a Barnet Council road so it is used as a "cut through". This issue has its own problems as the more the residents improve the road the more it gets used, fre of upkeep charges, by non residents. If any one know any useful sources of information on this type of problem I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
We do however have a separate issue which is that for some bizarre reason the council have painted the double yellow lines next to the kerb, not around the corner of the junction where our road meets the council road, but straight across the entrance to our road. The outcome of this is that for someone who does not know the area they see the double yellow lines before they see the entrance to the road. This is dangerous but I have had requests to the council to look at this issue turned down at the two major levels and the double yellow lines have just been renewed. The situation is exacerbated by the fact that the highways deoartment is outsourced.
If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this issue I would appreciate it.

[Drivingforfun]

Do the residents all share your view that it's a problem? Would an option to be to club together to install a gate?

[Rolebama]

I don't understand the yellow lies being dangerous. There is no problem crossing them for access to properties. As to the gate suggestion, make sure keys are available for emergency services.

[Beelzebub]

Rather than a gate, which inevitably causes inconvenience and problems, can't you simply block one end of the road? That would stop the rat-runners.

[Drivingforfun]

Another idea I thought of which is kind of combining Beelzebub's idea with mine is just having a single gate somewhere on the road

This has the effect of making the road useless as a rat run, and residents should be able to use the road without needing to open the gate, but then you still have the option of opening it if it's quicker than going all the way round

[Grimm]

To tackle the yellow line issue, try contacting your local councillor directly or consider starting a community petition sometimes, a collective voice gets quicker results.

[TC1474]

Double yellow lines across the mouth of a junction have no bearing as to whether access can be gained to a road or not, they are simply put down in respect of parking and waiting restrictions.

But....... It sounds like these lines may not comply with the traffic order that has to be put in place before any lines can be put down and even then the lines have to comply exactly with what it says in the traffic order.

So for example, the traffic order may say that the lines will commence (and this is just an example) 10 yards south of its junction of such and such a road and terminate 20 yards from the junction of whatever road.

Measurements are critical as 1 foot (even 6 inches) out and the whole order becomes invalid and illegal.

Each set of lines must have termination lines

No termination lines, parking restrictions cannot be enforced

Signs must be clearly visible at regular intervals and must be at a height that would be capable of being seen by a reasonable person and the signs must comply with the lines which in turn must comply with the traffic order.

And so it goes on and I am sure you get my drift.

The point is that a high percentage of parking restrictions do not comply, and some areas are particularly bad. When I used to do traffic management, we found that something like 80% of restrictions in my area were non compliant and it still happens today as we no longer have Police traffic management checking on the legality.

You can usually obtain a copy of the order via your local library and in some areas the traffic order id also available to view online.

Might be worth having a look if you are concerned or interested.

[NMNeil]

Before installing a gate or any other barrier you might want to contact the legal owner of the land.