[learner19]

Hi everyone,

I'm currently learning how to drive.

I have a question about approaching the haden circus roundabout in Birmingham.

There are three lanes. The first lane can be used to turn left or to go straight (see image 1).

After the first exit, the first lane and the second lane merge (see image 2 and 3).

Let's say for some reason, I decide to use the first lane to go straight. I pass first exit and then I'm at a point where the first and second lane merge.

Just before the two lanes merge, do I need to signal right to move from the first lane to the second lane, and then signal left to show other drivers I'm about to exit the roundabout?

Haden circus roundabout image 1

Haden circus image 2

Haden circus image 3

I'm really confused about this. I asked my driving instructor, but I don't think he was paying attention because he said something completely random. ;_;

Cheers if anyone can help. ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;

[Drivingforfun]

Personally, I would say it's up to the people in lane 2 to merge into lane 1 safely. I'd say lane 1 is the established lane where you are expected to just proceed anyway, and any indication would perhaps confuse people

- the arrows on the road say lane 1 goes straight only, lane 2 goes straight or right, so they would have more of an obligation to confirm which of their 2 options they are taking

- normally the overtaking traffic (lane 2) is expected to move back in when safe, not the other way round

I might be wrong but that's my take on it

[NMNeil]

Rule 185 even has pictures😀
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

[Santa]

The tricky bit about negotiating complicated roundabouts is trying to second-guess what the other drivers will do. Even when you follow the lanes and do everything correctly, there will always be another driver who, from impatience or unfamiliarity, will make unexpected lane changes. With experience, you will learn to anticipate these.

You should always indicate if you are changing lanes, and on a roundabout, as soon as you pass the last exit before the one you want. At the same time, you have to be aware of the cars alongside and behind you and be prepared to take evasive action if they do anything untoward.

There are a great many different designs and layouts for roundabouts and you really do need to keep your wits about you. You may be interested in some of these below:

Dunton Interchange at Curdworth
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5387...!1e3?entry=ttu

The Magic Roundabout, Swindon
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Th...M3Js?entry=ttu

[Mark07]

Originally Posted by Drivingforfun

Personally, I would say it's up to the people in lane 2 to merge into lane 1 safely. I'd say lane 1 is the established lane where you are expected to just proceed anyway, and any indication would perhaps confuse people

- the arrows on the road say lane 1 goes straight only, lane 2 goes straight or right, so they would have more of an obligation to confirm which of their 2 options they are taking

- normally the overtaking traffic (lane 2) is expected to move back in when safe, not the other way round

I might be wrong but that's my take on it

Hi @learner19

Great question!

Personally, I'd agree with @Drivingforfun, lane 1 has priority.

It'd be interesting to hear your instructors opinion given they'll have the benefit of local knowledge. As with any questions you have, I'd recommend politely bringing it up with them again.

You may be a learner driver, but your instructor works for you. It's their job to teach you the skills and information you need to drive.

Incidentally, the fact that you've come to our community looking for help tells me that you're likely a conscientious driver and keen to learn.

All the best!