ULEZ Again
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Just for the hell of it I just checked the TfL website to see if my old Peugeot 306 diesel was compliant. Strangely, it is. Reg is P722 PVG Red Sedan. That's the oldest one that I can remember the Reg to check. Be interesting to know if any of you have an older one you can check.
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I can't remember any of my old car regs @Rolebama !!
Must be old age creeping up on me?
All I know is that my Fiesta (the one that was written off) was compliant. And if I ever get round to replacing it..... I'll def need to check the next one complies too. I've got family in 'greater' London which, thanks to the ULEZ extension, will now cost a fair bit to visit.
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Did you see the news about Paris @Rolebama ?
They're tripling costs of parking an SUV in the city. Of parking, not entering the city. -
I caught something on msn yesterday about TfL wanting to charge extra for SUV parking. Found this: https://www.timeout.com/london/news/...ng-fees-020524
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Still remember quite a few of my reg nos. My first, an Austin Mini 7, was 57 NMG. Had it for about four years. Finally succumbed to rust. My mother got into the passenger seat for a shopping trip, and the floor pan on that side seperated from the rest of the car. This was about a month after it's MOT.
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https://www.curbed.com/2023/06/new-y...based-fee.html
And for the longest time the California law prohibiting the parking of vehicles over 6000 pounds was ignored. Now, it's being enforced.
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To be fair, my only complaint is that they obstruct the view when they are parked too close to junctions. To charge them is just another tax-gathering venture.
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If polluting cars are the reason for the introduction of the ULEZ the obvious answer is to just ban them, not accept a 'bribe' to let them drive into London.
Defeats the whole object of reducing emissions. -
I do wonder if these "sin taxes" did their job and everyone decided to avoid "offending" so as to not pay the tax, would the government then try to encourage people to drive into London in order to raise money ... it happened in Japan recently when it was realised that the younger generation was not drinking much and alcohol tax revenues were low so they actually promoted drinking! -
If everyone involved used public transport it would not be able to cope, and when business realized, they would really have no option but to join to get these extra taxes removed. Similarly, if everyone slowed down there would be no justification for the cameras, so they would have to go.
Unfortunately there would be increases and new taxes invented because they would still want the cash. -
So it now appears that, as of today, you can donate your scrappage scheme car to the Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsb...16c8ef11&ei=50 -
I took my car in for an MOT last Wednesday. Coincidentally, a friend took his non-compliant in at the same time. He came round yesterday with his emission check paperwork to compare with mine. The only difference was his ppm was 5, whereas mine was 8. That is out of the 200 allowed. We both use E10, if that matters.
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Would that life were that simple.
We have developed a way of life that depends on instant transport, such that we cannot function without a car (or at least believe we cannot function).
I can remember a time when people walked or if they had enough money had a bicycle.
Work had to be within walking distance or cycling rang, as a last resort buses were used.
Now employers assume their employees will have a car.
On top of that, as humans tend to do, cars have become a fashion item, a way of showing status, an expression of ourselves, an emblem of freedom, a way of showing our individualism, (we drive our way) having a driving licence is now a right of passage.
Whilst all of these are great tools for the advertisers, they get in the way of us thinking logically.
Realistically, cars are so much incorporated into everyday living it is not possible to stop it like turning off a tap.
So legislator's can only try to reduce the damage (they hope) caused by pollution rather than end it.
And, if it costs money people tend to take notice, and when replacing their car they (hopefully) look for a car that costs less to run, thus forcing the manufacturers to produce less polluting vehicles. -
I thought the problem in Japan was, as alcohol consumption fell the use of drugs increased.
Whilst alcohol addiction creates many social problems, these have been around for a long time, and have become accepted as normal, whilst drugs addiction tends to be more catastrophic, and dramatic, and is not yet accepted as normal.
So better the devil you know...
It's strange, we are endowed with a very good brain but we can't wait to befuddle it! -
If I remember correctly, the difference between the emissions levels was NOX levels (which I don't think are part of the MOT?), I think that was the major change in the 2015 regulations.
NOX is expressed as g/km (I think pre 2015 8g/km post 2015 0.25g/km). -
@olduser
I wasn't aware that it was because people were replacing it with drugs, that would make sense!
From my limited experience when it comes to mental health, alcohol slows down our brain's ability to process negative stuff as well as positive stuff. I don't know if there have been studies proving or disproving this but I imagine it's why there's a higher proportion of mental health (and alcohol/drug) issues among people who have exceptional talent?
I guess, mental health diagnosis or not, a lot of people get to a point where their problems are bad enough that it's worth suppressing all the good stuff our brains can do, if it means preventing our ability to think about our problems (in a negative way)? -
Here in New Mexico both alcohol and marijuana are legal, but they still insist on calling marijuana a drug, but not alcohol. -
Car parks being turned into car free housing,
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1179781.html
https://www.southgateconservatives.u...ation-car-park
And of course by simply removing car parking rather than restricting cars will mean you can drive but you won't be able to legally park anywhere except your own driveway; if you have one that is.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1858127/car-parking-birmingham-petrol-diesel-cars -
Alcohol has become part of the fabric of life, intoxication puts down the burdens of life, removes inhibition, shyness, and self-consciousness, for a short while.
Unfortunately, it do's not solve any problems...
Rather like smoking, it do's not have any immediate detrimental medical effects most of these are long term effects so it can be dismissed as, doing no harm! -
@olduser I understand, but if you drink enough alcohol to physically harm yourself it's a self inflicted injury and up to you. Now drink enough alcohol and drive you risk the lives of every other road user and pedestrian. Marijuana has no long term health issues, or so the research shows, but again, driving under the influence of marijuana or any other drug, including alcohol puts everyone at risk.
It goes back to the fact that some use drugs, other abuse drugs and it's the abusers who are the problem. -
We must have been looking at different reports on marijuana, the last research papers I read showed the risk of irreversible brain damage was very high, much worse than alcohol.
There are other physical problems but the brain damage was the major one.
I think, the problem with any behaviour altering drugs (I include alcohol) is the user is not in a position control their consumption, either because it feels sooo good or due to addiction.
I remember seeing a film clip on black and white TV (Tomorrows world I think) it was of a Squirrels brain kept alive out of it's body, it had a couple of electrodes in its brain, one in an area that caused pleasure, and one that could demand pleasure arranged with an oscilloscope to show what was going on.
With the demand signal connected to the stimulate electrodes, it just got faster and faster until the brain ran out of fuel, and had to stop.
There also have been similar test done on live humans, I don't think they would be allowed now but they demonstrated the same sort of thing.
Once you hit the pleasure it's very hard to stop.
The conclusion is, the user quickly losses control or as they see it, they are in control, and they just want more, and to heck with the consequences.Last edited by olduser; 29-01-25 at 14:14.
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Most of my friends have used mirajuana and I have been in cars with them under the influence. I did not know they had used before getting in, but once underway it soon became obvious. Too laid-back by far. 25mph on major dual carriageways with everybody else passing at 70mph, and long convoys on country lanes. An attitude of: "What's the hurry, people?"