News: Speeding offences are 8 times higher despite less vehicles on lockdown roads

  • MRenk's Avatar
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    A dangerous sub-section of motorists are still choosing to take advantage of quieter roads by pushing speed limits like never before.

    The Metropolitan Police has revealed that 2,020 speeding offences were enforced across the capital inside just one week – an eight-fold increase compared to the same seven days last year.

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    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/mot...-times-higher/

    Last edited by Aure; 05-11-20 at 15:16.
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  • Arthur5243's Avatar
    I have a close to goof today and it has been jumping up not splendid for the latest a few days.. Could you on the off chance that no one genuinely minds in any case, fix it?
  • Marc's Avatar
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    Welcome to the community @Arthur5243 and thanks for posting!

    Could you on the off chance that no one genuinely minds in any case, fix it?
    I'm not sure what you're asking! Fix speeding?
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  • juliejohn's Avatar
    Yeah that is very scary for anyone who is new on the road.
  • Beelzebub's Avatar
    The alarming surge in speeding offenses during lockdown underscores the need for heightened awareness and responsible driving. Despite reduced traffic, prioritizing safety remains crucial to ensure well-being on the roads.
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Lockdown is now ancient history.
  • Drivingforfun's Avatar
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Lockdown is now ancient history.

    There is an influx of people using AI to respond to forum posts. The post you reference smacks of that.

    What their motive is I am not sure? Increasing their post count to go on to post adverts once a "trusted" member, perhaps?
  • NMNeil's Avatar
    The alarming surge in speeding offenses during lockdown underscores the need for heightened awareness and responsible driving. Despite reduced traffic, prioritizing safety remains crucial to ensure well-being on the roads.
    No, it heightened the need to physically prevent cars from speeding, just like the EU by fitting them with speed limiters.
    Even here politicians are beginning to take notice after the latest mass killing by high speed car and talking about speed limiters being fitted as standard.
    https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20231114.aspx
  • Rolebama's Avatar
    Like the articulateds that pass me on motorways in excess of 70mph with stickers on the back saying 'Limited to 56mph'. It's the idiots behind the wheel that need limiters, not the vehicles. Or maybe an actual police presence?
  • NMNeil's Avatar
    The police will write tickets for speeders, a speed limiter will prevent the speeding in the first place.
    Which is better, prevention or prosecution?
  • NMNeil's Avatar
    And California of all places is now introducing speed limiter legislation for new cars.
    Not being well received.
    https://sfstandard.com/2024/01/24/st...ener-proposes/
  • Santa's Avatar
    @Rolebama

    It may seem to you that they are doing 70, but that would be very rare indeed. ALL trucks are fitted with limiters at the factory and even speeding downhill is recorded and available for managers and VOSA to see.
  • Renata98's Avatar
    It's striking that speeding offenses increased eightfold during lockdowns, despite fewer cars on the road. This increase demonstrates a worrying disregard for road safety and implies that some drivers may feel empowered or less limited by traffic laws.
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  • NMNeil's Avatar
    So a valid reason for turning on the speed limiters then?
  • Beelzebub's Avatar
    It's striking that speeding offenses increased eightfold during lockdowns, despite fewer cars on the road. This increase demonstrates a worrying disregard for road safety and implies that some drivers may feel empowered or less limited by traffic laws.
    Fm whatsapp
    No, it doesn't. The original story was based on a report of a single week's data in 2020. AFAIK there have no supporting reports in the following four years: if there had been, I'm sure we would have heard.

    That points to a statistical freak result, or an error.
  • Rolebama's Avatar
    Just a thought:
    About a year before lockdown, my Borough started reducing NSLs to 50mph limits, and shortening the existing 40mph stretches of road. They have consistently lowered limits throughout the Borough to the point that what were NSLs are now 30 and 40mph limits, along with the introduction of 20mph limits in some areas. (Not just school areas.) Along with the introduction of mobile and fixed cameras, are more people speeding, or are more getting caught out by these limit changes? I don't believe mine is the only Borough doing this.
    FWIW: HS2 work has apparently necessitated that some of the roads local to me now have been reduced from NSLs and 40 limits, to 20 limits with no reasonable excuse, as all the new roads and Vehicles Emerging areas have had traffic lights installed.
  • Rolebama's Avatar
    When I was in Germany there were no speed limits on Autobahns. They also had a rule that you had to give way to traffic entering from the right. I was in a tank regiment, so naturally, we were based in a rural area, so most of the traffic joining from the right was tractors. Worse, you couldn't see them coming because most of these tractors would just emerge from between the trees. Whoever said Germans have no sense of humour got it so wrong.
  • olduser's Avatar
    Just a thought.
    This high figure could simply be because the roads were relatively empty in the lockdown period, and drivers were not limited by congestion.

    I would not favour speed limiters, I have had several incidents where being able to get out of the way quickly has prevented damage or even injury.
    A limiter will only affect the overall top speed, which doe's not help with lower speed limits.

    There is nothing like the presence of well trained traffic police to maintain a safe flow of traffic, in the days when they existed, and had discretion, a roadside lecture was very effective, the offence being fresh in your mind, and a few pointers as to how stupid it was were much more effective than a shopping bag full of tickets.

    Speed cameras are there to be avoided, so the ticket is because you didn't see it not because you broke the law.

    A policeman with a speed gun in clear view, well fair cop, if the gun is correct but there are too many reason why it could be in error.

    If a policeman stops some one driving dangerously, because they are driving too fast (no gun involved just his opinion), it feels more just!

    It's strange how we think, no maybe it's strange how I think?
    Last edited by olduser; 22-09-24 at 14:15.
  • TC1474's Avatar
    Just a thought.
    This high figure could simply be because the roads were relatively empty in the lockdown period, and drivers were not limited by congestion.

    I would not favour speed limiters, I have had several incidents where being able to get out of the way quickly has prevented damage or even injury.
    A limiter will only affect the overall top speed, which doe's not help with lower speed limits.

    There is nothing like the presence of well trained traffic police to maintain a safe flow of traffic, in the days when they existed, and had discretion, a roadside lecture was very effective, the offence being fresh in your mind, and a few pointers as to how stupid it was were much more effective than a shopping bag full of tickets.

    Speed cameras are there to be avoided, so the ticket is because you didn't see it not because you broke the law.

    A policeman with a speed gun in clear view, well fair cop, if the gun is correct but there are too many reason why it could be in error.

    If a policeman stops some one driving dangerously, because they are driving too fast (no gun involved just his opinion), it feels more just!

    It's strange how we think, no maybe it's strange how I think?

    On your first point about well trained traffic officers, those days are long gone. Roads policing is not regarded as front line policing by many chief officers despite the fact that traffic cops deal with more death and make more crime arrests than any other department in the service.

    And whilst an experienced traffic cop is allowed to give evidence of opinion on a number of matters, most courts want hard evidence which is why most of the technology (Lazer, VASCAR, Truvello, Calibrated speedo etc) have a had all the bugs ironed out over the years and the loopholes have been plugged.

    But it is the training (or lack of it) that has taken the hit these days along with the resources that have been depleted.

    Then there is deregulation, so the councils are no longer required to consult anyone, and they are banging in lower limits which are unreasonable, not required because there was no issue in the first place but allows their expensive traffic engineers to justify their existence.